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Post by barbieq25 on Feb 4, 2011 21:55:15 GMT
Manc, based on what you have told me, I can only say you need to think things out before you hit "Send..." I have wanted to shoot off my mouth via the boards before, but I usually erase everything because I didn't want to cause anything to get ugly and wind up put on the blacklist. Everybody here has a right to voice their opinion, but flaming anybody will not be tolerated. This rule applies to myself as well because I believe that nobody is above the rule, and that includes the staff and administrators. Well said Lance.
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Post by TheBad1 on Feb 4, 2011 22:07:27 GMT
We've all said things we regret (or maybe just worded it wrongly) ... it takes a big person to admit to it, so I've got to salute Manc for that.
I know my tone sometimes comes across as abrubt. And I definitely could have explained myself better on some occaisions
Sadly, these things happen ...
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Post by lancemcknight on Feb 4, 2011 22:50:32 GMT
Agreed, Welshy.
I also think we all talk a bit different, with idioms, phrases, and sayings that can potentially be taken the wrong way.
People I work with know I have a tendency to be very blunt, and don't give a hoot how they take it, whether they're male or female.
But I have also learned the difference between being passive, passive-aggressive, aggressive, and assertive. I'm still learning though. God knows how many toes I have unknowingly stomped on. My biggest issue is how long it takes for people to say it to my face that I've offended them, and they talk about it behind my back.
'Tis better to confront the problem than to delay it, and let it fester.
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Post by TheBad1 on Feb 4, 2011 22:57:53 GMT
Totally agreed with mate. Personally I like your frank, up-front manner. At least everyone knows where they're at. Plus you're like me and will throw your dummy (pacifier) out now and again ;D
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Post by Leif on Feb 5, 2011 1:53:19 GMT
I also think we all talk a bit different, with idioms, phrases, and sayings that can potentially be taken the wrong way. Plus, the fact that when you are on international forums, you always have to consider that English may not be peoples first language.
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Post by Helen on Feb 5, 2011 2:17:47 GMT
Leif: Ditto to your words.
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Post by Briamoth on Feb 5, 2011 7:15:46 GMT
I usually find an outlet for things I don't mean in sports such as basketball. Lol. Lots of smack talking especially in non-organized games.
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Post by Manc on Feb 5, 2011 10:00:00 GMT
Thanks Welshy. I'm just a straight talking brash northerner. It's like Mancunian humour,it's very dry and very cutting,no offence meant just a joke. Anyway,I must remember it's an international forum and I'm not talking to my mates down the pub,where we slag each other off a laugh about it. Still feeling very paranoid about this so hope it stop's eventually.
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Post by barbieq25 on Feb 5, 2011 10:58:47 GMT
Good to see we can talk about this. I do remember using a word (cannot recall which one) that Lance told me had a very derogatory meaning in the US but had a very good meaning over here. Words are only part of the communication. As Lance can tell you since both of us rely on other features of communication because we are hearing impaired.
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Post by oma on Feb 5, 2011 13:16:18 GMT
I also think we all talk a bit different, with idioms, phrases, and sayings that can potentially be taken the wrong way. Plus, the fact that when you are on international forums, you always have to consider that English may not be peoples first language. also don't forget age sometimes makes for different interpetation of comments. I remember my ooops moment when I said someone didn't know Jack. Meant something totally different to me than to them. ciao OMA
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Post by Pixey on Feb 5, 2011 13:56:19 GMT
And I'll never forget the time, in a study group when I was living in the USA, I asked someone to pass me a rubber, so that I could erase a mistake I'd made. You can imagine the reaction I got ;D
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Post by lancemcknight on Feb 5, 2011 14:00:55 GMT
;D
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Post by blackpenny on Feb 5, 2011 16:13:44 GMT
I know some Aussies in another forum, and we often have these discussions about how differences in language can be really funny. One guy said something about wearing a jumper, and I was wondering why he would be wearing a dress, until I found out a jumper is what I call a pullover sweater. And then there was the time I was laughed at in Chinese. My Tai Chi class had a Chinese New Year party and I was wearing a necklace with my birth sign. Apparently in China being born in the year of the Pig is not something you brag about. ;D
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Post by barbieq25 on Feb 6, 2011 14:22:23 GMT
Really, BP? I didn't know that...good to see a fellow pig...I can say that because we are not Chinese ;D Oma, true. Age makes a difference. When I want a smoke, it is a tobacco cigarette but to some it means marijuana. I got funny looks from my students for using the term "fag" for cigarette but then others use the term the same way, depending on the generation... I am trying to teach 2 female students Australian idioms, since that is what they will hear in the workplace. We get a great laugh & some words are the same in Arabic & German. Jumper is a really odd word to describe a knitted garment. Pullover is the same in German & makes sense. Sweater makes sense too especially when you are a child & mother puts one on you because SHE is cold
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Post by lancemcknight on Feb 6, 2011 14:25:20 GMT
Oma, true. Age makes a difference. When I want a smoke, it is a tobacco cigarette but to some it means marijuana. I got funny looks from my students for using the term "fag" for cigarette but then others use the term the same way, depending on the generation... That word here in the US is not considered a very nice word. It's a degraded term for those who are homosexual.
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Post by blackpenny on Feb 6, 2011 17:00:36 GMT
Here in Canada the word "faggot" caused quite a commotion. One person in Newfoundland complained about the song Money for Nothing by Dire Straits because of that word, and that version was banned from all radio stations. How ridiculous is that? To say a lot of people are not happy about is an understatement, and they're reviewing the decision.
Barbieq, hooray for the year of the Pig! ;D
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Post by Pixey on Feb 6, 2011 17:12:23 GMT
@bp - I hear ya! Now perfectly good old English words are being pilloried. Guess what me is a little Piggy too
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Post by Manc on Feb 6, 2011 17:35:28 GMT
I don't think I've heard the word "fag" used in a derogatory manner here in the UK,means cigarette,only time is on American tv. Wasn,t it "Mark Twain" that said"We are two nations devided by a common language".Something like that anyway.
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Post by Briamoth on Feb 6, 2011 19:07:31 GMT
I was born in the Year of the Rat. Don't really understand the Chinese zodiac signs at all.
Yeah, there is definitely a language barrier sometimes on an international forum with the different slangs and such.
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Post by barbieq25 on Feb 6, 2011 22:05:44 GMT
Oma, true. Age makes a difference. When I want a smoke, it is a tobacco cigarette but to some it means marijuana. I got funny looks from my students for using the term "fag" for cigarette but then others use the term the same way, depending on the generation... That word here in the US is not considered a very nice word. It's a degraded term for those who are homosexual. Can mean that here too. My generation - baby boomer - thinks of a cigarette, younger generation takes the other meaning. Personally, I don't like the word "gay" to describe homosexual people. I think it probably feeds the homophobia. We should able able just to say, homosexual. Also dislike the word "chick" to describe a female & when females use it about another female, it really grates with me. Sheila is fine, bird mildly acceptable. Man, I feel sorry for people trying to learn English...
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Post by lancemcknight on Feb 6, 2011 22:29:59 GMT
It's the same with sign language. It is a misconception that sign language is a universal language but it is not. The British and American sign language are vastly different.
I agree, I don't like how guys call girls or women a chick. It's kinda dumb.
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Post by Pixey on Feb 7, 2011 8:41:23 GMT
It's the same with sign language. It is a misconception that sign language is a universal language but it is not. The British and American sign language are vastly different. Thant's very interesting Lance - I never knew that!
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