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Post by blackpenny on Aug 20, 2011 16:10:17 GMT
Exercise helps. Sometimes if I just move around I don't feel so tired. Getting enough sleep regularly would probably help too. I've soaked infected fingers in hot water and salt. A doctor told me that. Although she did seem to enjoy lancing my finger a little too much ... My foot looks and feels almost normal now. If I can manage to not be stupid, and let it heal completely before exercising, I should be okay. I think I survived my week off without gaining any weight, too.
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Post by venicet on Aug 20, 2011 16:43:00 GMT
My parents used to make me soak cut fingers in salt water too. It has something to do with the salt pulling out the pus and infection. *sorry if anyone is grossed out by that*LOL
Also, I'm not sure how true this is, but for pulled muscles a salt bath *about half cup to a cup* is supposed to draw out the chemicals from your body that cause inflammation and swelling and that is why you feel less pain afterwards. The chemicals are released to cause the swelling so your body gets more blood flow to the injured site. The swelling is what causes the pain from pushing against nerves in the area. Pain is supposed to give our body notice that we are injured so that we don't overexert ourselves even more. So it makes me wonder if getting rid of the swelling is actually a good idea??? LOL ( I just thought I'd share this interesting *to me* tidbit)
I'm glad you are feeling better blackpenny. I hear ya on the weight issue. I have been so scared to step on the scale for almost a year because of feeling so fat. I've been recuperating for over 2 years now and become a couch potato which is so not like me. I haven't put on any more weight since the last time I weighed myself so that was a big relief.
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Post by TheBad1 on Aug 20, 2011 20:34:14 GMT
For infections I dab on hydrogen peroxide ... something quite perversely satisfying about watching the infection fizz and bubble For more serious infections I use zinc plaster ... I was first introduced to it when I cut all my fingers to the bone in a car crash. Fantastic stuff Thanks to everyone for the condolences
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Post by minners71 on Aug 21, 2011 10:56:48 GMT
Just a note on allergies and the rise of asthma, does anybody feel its because of all the sanatising we do now, as a kid I remember playing outside getting dirty and not being rushed immediately to the bathroom to clean up before meals. Now days you see mothers using sprays and gels on their kids all the time, kids are kept away from germs therefore their immune systems are weak. This also contributes to the more potent germs as well as they adapt to survive.
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Post by blackpenny on Aug 21, 2011 16:35:40 GMT
Yeah, I think all this antibacterial stuff makes bacteria more resistant and us less. You have to be exposed to things to develop resistance. I do use antibacterial soap when I have a cut, especially if it's a cat scratch, and then I dab on peroxide - I like the fizzing too. And hand sanitizer if I'm camping and there's only a pit toilet. Other than that, I don't think about it. I know people who are about one step away from living in a bubble, and it's too neurotic for me.
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Post by Leif on Aug 21, 2011 16:39:11 GMT
@ venicet I don't know if salt removes anything. Don't think so. But salt can work to disinfect. I sometimes put my feet in salt water to sort of clean up. As for getting blood to a wound, it is perfectly correct. If people have wounds that are hard to heal, you sometimes put them in a oxygen pressure camber. And you measure the amount of oxygen in the blood around a wound to determine the chance of it healing. Absolutely no smoking in a oxygen camber. ;D
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Post by TheBad1 on Aug 21, 2011 17:28:11 GMT
Nice to see another another 'fizzing' fan Yep true about the oxygen Leif. Funny you should mention no smoking. That reminds me of the time I was in hospital after a car crash and because I needed follow up operations they put me in a private room. Some friends left me some cigarettes which I used to puff out the window - not really noticing all the piping and cylinders under the window. Until a nurse came in one night and screamed ... MY GOD. PUT IT OUT. Stupid me could have demolished a hospital @ minners' ... I definitely think there's a connection between asthma and being 'too clean'. The same as central heating in homes contributes to it. All that dry air
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Post by venicet on Aug 22, 2011 2:04:32 GMT
I have allergies to tons of stuff, but funny enough I"m not allergic to cats. The specialist said he's never seen that before LOL Asthma runs in my birth family on both sides, so all my life as a kid no one knew why I got sick so easy. I had pneumonia twice when I was two and the meds caused my hearing loss by damaging the nerves. I think a lot of allergies and asthma are a result of all the things in the air like smoke from paper mills and whatnot. I"m rambling here and not sure I have a point.....
Welsh, omg! LOL Thank goodness you didn't blow everyone up!
Did anyone use mecurichrome as a kid on scrapes or cuts? It was that stuff that turned you all red when you dabbed it on. I haven't seen it in years. I probably spelled it wrong, just saying.
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Post by barbieq25 on Aug 22, 2011 9:13:10 GMT
Agreed on the allergies...pain is a protection...oxygen does hasten healing. Hydrogen peroxide - very cool! Mercurochrome, gentian violet & iodine all worked wonders. Hmm dunno zinc plaster - will now have to google it.
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Post by lancemcknight on Aug 22, 2011 15:51:53 GMT
Did anyone use mecurichrome as a kid on scrapes or cuts? It was that stuff that turned you all red when you dabbed it on. I haven't seen it in years. I probably spelled it wrong, just saying. It is banned now because of mercury in the medicine. It was wonderful for cleaning wounds, but dang, that thing could sting!
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Post by barbieq25 on Aug 22, 2011 22:11:40 GMT
Really? I didn't know that Lance. At school we had a glass bottle of mercury & we used to steal some & play with it with our bare hands!
I really do wonder how we ever made it into adulthood!
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Post by minners71 on Aug 22, 2011 22:24:37 GMT
@ barbie and lance I'm surprised amalgam filling have not been banned worldwide yet due to the high mercury levels of about 50%
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Post by venicet on Aug 22, 2011 22:32:14 GMT
LOL it's a wonder we all survived. Lead based paint on cribs with bars too far apart, water from garden hose, dangerous medicine, no seat belts, no bike helmets..... the list goes on. LOL We're tougher than you might think!
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Post by minners71 on Aug 23, 2011 2:58:46 GMT
venicet your post reminds me of this. WE WAS BRUNG UP PROPER !! “And we never had a whole Mars bar until 1993″!!! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL FRIENDS & RELATIONS WHO WERE BORN IN THE 1940′s, 50′s, 60′s and 70′s ! First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while they carried us and lived in houses made of asbestos… They took aspirin, ate blue cheese, raw egg products, loads of bacon and processed meat, tuna from a can, and didn’t get tested for diabetes or cervical cancer. Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright coloured lead-based paints. We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets or shoes, not to mention, the risks we took hitchhiking. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags. We drank water from the garden hose and NOT from a bottle. Take away food was limited to fish and chips, no pizza shops, McDonalds , KFC, Subway or Nandos. Even though all the shops closed at 6.00pm and didn’t open on a Sunday, somehow we didn’t starve to death! We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE actually died from this. We could collect old drink bottles and cash them in at the corner store and buy Toffees, Gobstoppers, Bubble Gum and some bangers to blow up frogs with. We ate cupcakes, white bread and real butter and drank soft drinks with sugar in it, but we weren’t overweight because…… WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE PLAYING!! We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the streetlights came on. No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O..K. We would spend hours building our go-carts out of old prams and then ride down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. We built tree houses and dens and played in river beds with matchbox cars. We did not have Playstations, Nintendo Wii , X-boxes, no video games at all, no 999 channels on SKY , no video/dvd films, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no Internet or Internet chat rooms……….WE HAD FRIENDS and we went outside and found them! We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no Lawsuits from these accidents. Only girls had pierced ears! We ate worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not live in us forever. You could only buy Easter Eggs and Hot Cross Buns at Easter time… We were given air guns and catapults for our 10th birthdays, We rode bikes or walked to a friend’s house and knocked on the door or rang the bell, or just yelled for them! Mum didn’t have to go to work to help dad make ends meet because we didn’t need to keep up with the Jones’s! Not everyone made the rugby/football/cricket/netball team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on MERIT Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and throw the blackboard rubber at us if they thought we weren’t concentrating . We can string sentences together and spell and have proper conversations because of a good, solid three R’s education. Our parents would tell us to ask a stranger to help us cross the road. The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. They actually sided with the law! Our parents didn’t invent stupid names for their kids like ‘Kiora’ and ‘Blade’ and ‘Ridge’ and ‘Vanilla’ We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL ! And YOU are one of them! CONGRATULATIONS! You might want to share this with others who have had the luck to grow up as kids, before the lawyers and the government regulated our lives for our own good. And while you are at it, forward it to your kids so they will know how brave their parents were.
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Post by TheBad1 on Aug 23, 2011 6:12:24 GMT
venicet your post reminds me of this. Not everyone made the rugby/football/cricket/netball team. Those who didn’t had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!! Getting into the team was based on MERIT We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned HOW TO DEAL WITH IT ALL ! Our teachers used to hit us with canes and gym shoes and throw the blackboard rubber at us if they thought we weren’t concentrating . Sadly times have changed and all our respective governments/ sporting bodies are nannying us and our kids. As a football coach of some years, I've seen good people walk away because of 'non-competive' rules for all under 11's. Utter nonsense because kids have to learn to win graciously as much as they have to learn to lose graciously. Plus kids aren't fools. They know when someone weakens the team and are a bit more vocal and cruel in letting them know it As for the teachers - I didn't dare tell my parents when bunches of keys bounced off my head. Or when the metalwork teacher brought out Humphrey ( a thin metal rod with a devils head on) Not because I was scared of them making a fuss at school. But because I was scared for me getting into trouble again
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Post by barbieq25 on Aug 23, 2011 11:17:41 GMT
Big fuss here at the moment because after 3 years to trying to get her son, now 10, to stop stealing the exasperated mother put Shrek ears on him & a sing that warned people not to trust him because he steals. She had tried many things & the police were kind enough to show the kid the ins & outs of being arrested, the cells etc. It's got the town divided. Lasting psychological damage! c's Good on her. Well maybe not the wisest choice but the kid wasn't exactly kicking & screaming to get away either.
Not in favour of do-gooders that don't make the child wear the responsibility for his/her actions.
True Welshy about the kids sports too.
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Post by minners71 on Aug 23, 2011 11:40:33 GMT
My secondary school in England stopped giving out medals on sports days about 5 years ago, so as not to upset the ones who were no good at sports. I tell you the world has gone mad, didn't matter that the same kids who were no good at sports excelled in different areas and got their praise there. Did the sporty kids go home crying because they never got rewarded from the more academic classes ?
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Post by TheBad1 on Aug 23, 2011 11:55:27 GMT
@ BarbieQ' ... ;D ;D
I love that story. Fair play to her. Being in and out of prison will be more psychologically damaging for him unless he changes his ways. Too much pussy footing around is what's damaging kids ... not discipline.
@ Minners' ... thankfully my local schools still have competitive sports days, where different 'houses' compete against each other.
Kids have to learn that life isn't fair
From when my son was 7 until he was 14 I was criticised by some for letting him play against boys 2 years older than himself. Yeah at times because of his skill and speed he got a bit of punishment and ended up on the floor ... or on gruesome tackles in the air.
Now he's 16. Played for his county, played for his local football assosciation and now getting a bit of money playing against men, and is a highly regarded youngster through out Mid Wales Was I cruel ? Possibly. Did he benefit from it ? Definitely. Would I change anything ? Nope.
One thing that pleases me is the feedback from other people about how polite my kids are. That doesn't come by chance ... it's by nurture
... but I could go on and on about the decline of society ...
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Post by blackpenny on Aug 23, 2011 15:44:52 GMT
I think a non-competitive alternative would be a good idea for very young kids to introduce them to sports. It would at least get them active and they might be more inclined to continue with some activity.
In school, I wasn't very good at sports, and to play on a team you had to be good. That was really the only kind of physical activity available outside of PE class. Not everyone is suited for or interested in sports, but they need to learn the importance of exercise. Now I enjoy aerobics and step, and I'm thinking of running (if it agrees with my feet). I took an African dance class several years ago, and it was a blast, even though I looked like a total dork.
Competition is good, but not everything has to be competitive. We need alternative forms of activity for the non-athletes.
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Post by barbieq25 on Aug 23, 2011 21:52:11 GMT
My father brought us up fairly tough. Whenever I wanted a bed for my dolly, he gave me wood (used of course) & hammer & nails. Mum was really upset. Same with fixing my old car. Here's the tools & you have the workshop manual. If you get really stuck, come & ask me, he'd say. Mum used to get really upset with Dad over it. I didn't mind mostly that I had to fix it myself. At least it got fixed. Same on the farm with the fat ba$tard (kids named him that after the Austin Powers movie). If I didn't have those skills, I'd never have been able to build most of the house myself or the many other things I did. It also gave the the skills to learn new skills. I think that is the most important thing to teach children & young adults.
Learning to learn is a motto that I put on the brochure for the adult literacy program that I ran for more than a decade.
Learn to play with the big boys & take the knocks because what doesn't kill will only strengthen. Then you come back & show them how it's done!
Life favours the strong. Strength comes in many shapes & sizes. Strong heart, body, mind & spirit.
(modified because the rat posted **this for me. )
Tough love...yep, bit like calling your boy Sue. My son thanked me for the good job I did of raising him & the skills I taught him. Things like listening to the other side of the story & compassion which is also as important as being able to lift the fridge with one hand. My daughter too indicated that while I was tough I was fair & she appreciates the efforts I made to teach her skills & overcome her fears to make her more independent.
Ditto with the politeness Welshy. Leading by example.
True, those kids who did really well at sport are not rewarded but those who did not try are equally rewarded. Same with the Technical & Further Education (TAFE which should stand for training after failing elsewhere in relation to many the teachers & admins) we have here. It is either pass or fail & does not reflect the amount of effort expended by the student.
True BP, very young ones need to learn to co-operate first. It has often been said that a 2 year old thinks the world revolves around them. Guess what? It is true! Young children are not able to show compassion or other emotions not involving themselves because their brains are not yet wired for that. It comes with time & opportunities to learn those things aka nurturing. Same with sport. Competitiveness is a learned trait but also influenced by genes & personal makeup.
I could have been a champion marathon runner but I knew my parents could not afford the travel & that my father would not have allowed a daughter to excel at something he thought was a male realm. So I rarely showed that I could run fast & for a long, long way. I was also good at discus & shot put & volley ball. Double standards - he wants me to fix my car but sports & schooling are for boys?? The sport didn't matter that much to me but the schooling did. At age 40 I started at uni & have never regretted the sacrifices I had to make to get there.
Efforts should always be rewarded. I remember at the school's swimming carnival, you scored 1 point for your "house" if you got in the pool for at least 1 event, winning or not. I cannot swim but I got in & got wet. I was a tiny wee thing & the older bigger kids made sure that I got safely to the shallow end without drowning. ;D
Not rewarding winners but treating everyone the same looks the same colour as Communism to me.
What an awful world. Thank goodness we have each other here, those who remember what life was like & how good it was back then.
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Post by lancemcknight on Aug 23, 2011 22:50:37 GMT
Wow, this discussion about upbringing and sports are a bit off-topic with this thread, but somewhat in line with the general idea.
One year, my wife and I signed up my daughter for a basketball season through a church organization. I thought, "Wow, a Christian-based environment, let's sign her up." Then I was chagrined to find out at the end of every game, all players get some kind of award, and they really put too much emphasis on "Every Child Is a Winner."
I draw the line when I see parents doling on their kids as if they cannot do anything. My daughter, at the time, was 9 and was perfect capable of putting on her shoes and tying them up. A parents of her teammate would dress her up and tie her shoes up. I had to walk away from the gym before I could explode.
I have coached one season of soccer (sorry, Welshy) for my daughter's team with my wife as an assistant, and we told all the parents straight up that we are old-school and grew up with military father. At the end of the season, the parents actually compliment us, and were disappointed that I decided not to continue coaching for the fall season. I remember one game I was so upset with them I went off, and then had to walk away to calm down before I said something I would regret. Funny, the parents never said a cross word about it. Hm-hmm. Very interesting. I do have to admit that my wife and I came up with an award for the members of the team, like "Most Improved Defensive Player," "Most Silly Player," etc, etc. I think those kind of silly award are good for memories and hopefully to help the girls continue playing soccer.
My daughter now is taking Kempo-Karate and she loves it. More than soccer and basketball. I suspect it with advancement with stripes before being promoted to the next belt color is how she measure her progress. Her instructor is strict and I mean, he has said to some little kids, "If you don't straighten up, you are out of here." He don't take any prisoners.
Oh boy, here I go again, rambling...
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Post by blackpenny on Aug 24, 2011 16:18:42 GMT
I'm back exercising again now that my foot is better. Boy does it feel good! ;D
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