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Post by TheBad1 on Sept 16, 2011 21:17:01 GMT
Wow mate.
Powerful image.
The anarchy sign behind the melting lilies is a message in itself. Add the button ... the poor flutterbye ...
I think a lot of society is turning to toxic waste, mate.
Looking at this image, as I'm listening to a news report on the 4 miners who were found drowned today in Soufff Wales has made a lump appear in my throat.
Shit this board has got talent.
When my numbers come up on the lottery I'm going to get us all together ;D
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Post by barbieq25 on Sept 16, 2011 22:00:19 GMT
A very thought provoking image AFG. I agree. All of the elements are so very well done. I love the lillies. What a shame that mankind has to ruin everything touched. I like how there is one butterfly untouched which gives a sense of hope.
To me skulls are always grinning. Well done!
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Post by venicet on Sept 16, 2011 23:08:26 GMT
wow, just wow I can't add anything to what has been said already. Awesome stuff.
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Post by Helen on Sept 16, 2011 23:24:32 GMT
I totally agree with what Welshblue and others said about the meaning of this art work. In addition, you create wonderful work--the flowers are so good and so are the butterflies. The skull and skeleton hands are amazing. Looks so realistic!
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Post by Sargon III on Sept 18, 2011 7:24:53 GMT
Me too totally agree about what have been said. Really fantastic work AFG, with the first glance you think it is a photo, but after a second you will realize it is actually a painting, the perspective and the shadows are greatly enhancing the view. What really did get my attention is the stems "phalanges" of the lilies, made me upset, Why do we put those beautiful creatures on tombs? I have two questions, why the drips didn't cast shadows, and that red line on the edge of vases shadow.
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Post by AFG on Sept 18, 2011 12:00:21 GMT
I will be posting an updated version of Societies Grave if and when I have my fathers approval to use an old photograph of my Grandfather taken during WWII in the work. @ BP : The skull is a reflection on how some view the break down off society. @ Welshy : Some of the events I have seen not only on the news but around my home town has left me angry and bewildered. An elderly woman being barged to the ground by a group teenagers in the middle of the high street and the anarchy sign being sprayed on the local war memorial are only two examples. Many of the villages around me were mining villages so there is a lot of sadness in the air at those men losing their lives. @ Barbieq : yes the blue butterfly is to represent hope. @ Venicet : I don't often do political works but I felt the need to make a statement. @ Helen : I was trying to give the impression that the bones were living so i used reds and pinks on the hands. @ Sargon : You know me mate, if I am not putting shadows in the wrong place , I am forgetting to included them altogether I will correct that in version 2 , the red line was a mystery to me but I have now discovered it was caused by using different blend modes while painting the shadow of the flowers and the pool of melted liquid.
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Post by AFG on Sept 18, 2011 13:36:11 GMT
Updated version, my Grandfather is furthest to the right, shortly after returning to the front his two friends were killed, he told me the one thing that kept him going was the dream of a safer and better society, god knows what he would think of it today.
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Post by blackpenny on Sept 18, 2011 14:49:40 GMT
Great addition, really emphasizes the message.
I like how you're expressing your feelings in a constructive way, rather than destructive as many people choose to do.
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Post by venicet on Sept 18, 2011 17:37:53 GMT
wow, hearing what it means to you specifically made the message in this piece even more powerful. Thanks so much for sharing it with us!
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Post by Helen on Sept 18, 2011 19:49:18 GMT
Nicely done. The message is very clear. I love the fact that the photo lets us realize what wars are really like.
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Post by barbieq25 on Sept 18, 2011 21:12:32 GMT
I agree with what has been said. The addition of the photo completes the picture for me. Such a powerful image.
Being alive now for over half a century, I look back & see the changes even in my own lifetime. The good, the bad & the very ugly. The rapidity of changes has been phenomenal.
The odd part is that your grandfather & mine were on opposite sides but the painful story of fighting in a war they didn't start is the same. I am glad your grandfather came home. I never knew mine.
What does your father think of the image?
It has just struck me about the colours in this one too. Very fitting.
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Post by TheBad1 on Sept 21, 2011 19:36:12 GMT
Adding the photograph has given it the goose-bump factor, mate. I'm covered in them. wow. Knowing what inspired you to make this image makes it so right, yet so very wrong. I totally hate the lack of respect some of the chavs and some of the younger generation show the elderly and the sacrifices by all in the Wars. Past and present My grandfather served in France and my wife's grandfather was a Japanese POW. Most of these so called hard-case kids who are big and cocky when in gangs but pussies when they're by themselves would be crying for their mums on the first night. (If they knew what pub and/or drug den they were in) (Allegedly) Britain has been too soft for too long mate. Discipline has gone out the window to be replaced by 'human rights' ... I can throw eggs at your windows and car and get a verbal warning. Lay a finger on me and you get a arrested for assault ... sort of human rights. What I can't work out is what about the rights of the victims of all these repeat offenders ? Craziness. What's needed is snatch squads ... 4 men in a Transit van, hooded up just to put the fear factor into them. No violence, just a taste of what elderly people and young families are going through. I'll shut up now. Once I get on this soap box it makes my blood boil. Fantastic image mate Edit * BTW the label on the photograph looks so authentic. Brilliant
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Post by AFG on Sept 22, 2011 9:28:44 GMT
BP, Venicet, Helen, Barbieq and Welshy, thanks for the comments.
Unfortunately I honestly believe that mankind will have to face extinction before they realize the futility of war.
Barbieq to answer your question, my father understood the point I was trying to make, it also led us into talking about how five generations of the family have been involved in wars or conflicts as they like to call them now, the latest being my nephew and niece who are at present both in 'conflict zones'.
Welshy I understand where you are coming from mate, when you know what it takes to face it and then see a memorial to those who paid the ultimate price desecrated by some dickhead weekend warrior it brings tears of anger and sorrow.
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Post by moninca on Sept 22, 2011 21:19:41 GMT
That picture sends chills up my spine, AFG. Were you able to make this without either crying or wanting to bodyslam something/one? Simply amazing....
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