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Post by blackpenny on Apr 14, 2014 16:01:56 GMT
Yesterday was good here too. We took our dog to his first obedience class. Lots of fun, except for the barking. Ours is one of the top "barkative" breeds, but he settled down after a bit. Weather was nice too, and it's nice today, then rain or snow the next couple of days.
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Post by Trevor on Apr 15, 2014 1:10:38 GMT
Hope you dog won't be barking up the wrong tree anymore.
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Post by Helen on Apr 17, 2014 17:17:15 GMT
Seriously? Welsh got b a n n e d from the main forum (it says so right under his avvie). I mean, everyone has their ups and downs, but banned?! That word is horrid. I really wish the mods will change their mind.
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Post by Goonfella on Apr 17, 2014 20:12:12 GMT
Shame, but the mods had their reasons. When he was last in trouble on the forum the mods put an embargo on him. I sent a PM to the mods sticking up for him. It was only then that I found out the reason for the embargo . I`m afraid he had his chance but blew it.
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Post by TheBad1 on Apr 17, 2014 20:49:58 GMT
The alledged reason for the embargo is that I was extremely rude to Red Ochre in the Cliff rock tutorial ... when in my eyes it was simply good manners. So they wanted to dock me half the rep points people had given because I 'devalued them' ... when really they devalued them by disrespecting the people who gave them. Apparently I'm also guilty of driving away everyone who has ever left - when really I've wrote the most tutorials, given hours of help behind the scenes and had amassed the most rep points. So wow public enemy #1 ?? As for this banning - I'm not putting up with vile messages, and hearing how Red Ochre is slagging me off behind my back, drumming up support and even giving out plugins by PM to people who have 'supported him'. Sly is what I call that Bollox to that. So unless people know the facts they shouldn't really comment. I'm quite happy being not in a place where there are 2 faced people, an Administrator who can dish it out but not take it. And basically presides over a kangaroo court where it's his way or the highway. Take me as you find me folks. Yeah I've moaned that some people post work but never comment on others yet want comments on their own - is that so wrong ? Again to me it comes down to respect Helen you know I love you and your work - I can still see it on dA
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Post by Goonfella on Apr 17, 2014 21:42:35 GMT
OK the facts as I see it. You sent me a particularly nasty PM just because I never replied to your post in my gallery about my latest image. I really did just miss it and really did not deliberately ignore you and never would. I reply to everyone who takes time to comment as you well know. I had only recently sent you a supportive get well PM and felt a bit hurt to be honest. A simple friendly reminder would have been sufficient. I could have complained to the mods over this but did not and would never do so. I just put it down to you having a bad day which in the circumstances is understandable.
However Welshy, I also appreciate how much work you have put into all your excellent tutorials and to helping people out and what an asset to the forum you have been. This was one of the things I pointed out to the mods when I sent them a PM sticking up for you and objecting to your embargo. They then replied giving me their side of the story so I just left it there, but had a good idea of why you had been banned when I found out about it.
I hope we can put this all behind us now though and just concentrate on what we do best - creating images. I hope you have not got rid of PDN. It would be such a shame.
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Post by Trevor on Apr 18, 2014 0:16:49 GMT
Well...at least this place seem to be back.
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Post by Helen on Apr 18, 2014 2:45:12 GMT
Life's too short, so let's make the better of it by being friends. Please? Also, I'm a huge believer that sometimes things can be SO misunderstood when put in writing and not actually being explained by yourself. @welsh: That's great. Thanks for dropping by and commenting.
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Post by blackpenny on Apr 21, 2014 15:24:55 GMT
The way I see it, not everyone has the same idea of what constitutes good or bad manners. In fact, I was taught that pointing out someone else’s bad manners is in itself bad manners. Most people are not deliberately rude, if they don’t comment it can be for any number of reasons, most likely an honest mistake. People don’t like being corrected. I would love to correct the spelling mistakes I see, but it’s not my place.
Besides, we’re on these forums for critique on our artwork, not spelling or etiquette. If you feel truly offended, you can deal with it by PM, or let the mods handle it.
As one of Red Ochre’s supporters, I contacted him because I understand how he feels, having been in a similar situation. He is not drumming up support or “slagging you off behind your back”, he is stating how he sees things. I felt the same way in my situation, everyone supporting the “other guy”, and not caring about my hurt feelings.
About respect – it goes both ways. If you want people to accept you as you are, you should be prepared to accept them as they are. We’re not perfect, whatever anyone’s idea of perfect is.
And now, I have calligraphy to do. We have a show coming up and I would like to do a piece. It has to be done by Thursday. So far, Plan A isn’t working, so I’m moving on to Plan B, as soon as I know what it is.
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Post by Leif on Apr 27, 2014 17:21:59 GMT
Hey, blackpenny. Did you remove a new topic just as i was posting in it?
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Post by blackpenny on Apr 27, 2014 18:07:34 GMT
Yes. Yes I did. I added a plugin for Hide tags, and it didn't seem to be working right. I'll have to tinker with it some more. Or ... maybe I was just messing with your mind. Mwahahahaha!
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Post by Leif on Apr 27, 2014 18:54:44 GMT
Or ... maybe I was just messing with your mind. Mwahahahaha! My mind is already completely messed up, so that makes no deference. The hide tags would come in handy.
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Post by blackpenny on Apr 27, 2014 21:11:44 GMT
It's back! I figured out what was wrong and fixed the setting. I think I'll go take a nap now.
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Post by TheBad1 on Apr 30, 2014 20:49:57 GMT
In fact, I was taught that pointing out someone else’s bad manners is in itself bad manners. Luckily my kids have been brought up with manners at the forefront and corrected when they weren't. Strange how they're both so well thought of in sporting/education and social circles when I was so obviously lacking in their upbringing. How on Earth did I survive 3 years of bang-up being such an offensive person ... You don't want such a rude person here so please delete my tutorials. I've no interests in people learning from my hard work when all is shown is dis-respect. As for anything else, I've seen quotes and frankly I've got bigger fish to fry right now that all this pales into bollox ... who knows maybe you'll all be lucky and nature will cull the bad person who is such a despot that he's spent days on tutorials for others whilst only thinking of himself. I'll just leave all the cliques to get on with it Bye paint.net. What a waste of six years and a reminder that friends on the internet are never really that. Fickle springs to mind when I consider all the people I've helped on the forums and behind the scenes.
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Post by Helen on Apr 30, 2014 21:58:23 GMT
@welsh (and no, I refuse to call you "TheBad1."): I'll really miss you on here.
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Post by Goonfella on May 1, 2014 4:50:05 GMT
Frankly with an attitude like that I won't miss him at all. He goes on about manners and then posts something like that. Goodbye and good riddance.
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Post by Helen on May 1, 2014 11:34:07 GMT
Besides the point, all I have to say is that I have a huge backache and a boil on my left arm (for the umpteenth time!), it's raining, it's cold, and it's dreary. However, it's my parents' 42nd Wedding Anniversary and I appreciate that.
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Post by blackpenny on May 1, 2014 15:39:06 GMT
Happy Anniversary to your parents, Helen. 42 years - wow!
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Post by Goonfella on May 1, 2014 20:39:54 GMT
Sorry to hear about your backache and boil Helen. Hope it doesn`t take too long to get better. And Happy Anniversary to your parents.
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Post by Trevor on May 1, 2014 21:38:52 GMT
Helen, I would love for you to ask your parents what their secrets are to a long marriage. When my wife and I were dating, we would go around and ask older, married couples the secrets to their success in marriage. Would like for you to do that, pretty please.
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Post by Helen on May 2, 2014 0:01:08 GMT
Thank you all. And Trevor, the secret? Well, they always say not to go to bed when you're upset with each other and that there's NO reason for separation/divorce (unless one spouse cheated on the other). All other things SHOULD be worked out no matter what. The vows were "Till death do us part," so if there are arguments over paintbrushes, or if the toilet seat is up and not down, whether or not the grass isn't mowed, then that's something that can be talked about and negotiated upon. But most importantly, God is what holds the bond between my dad and my mom.
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Post by Pixey on May 2, 2014 6:48:42 GMT
Hi Helen - I do hope you get better soon. A backache and a boil is not a recipe for a good day is it Happy Anni to your folks too. My husband and I have been married for 40 years now. The secret - good question! The only thing I can think of is, one must have a lot of 'respect' for each other, 'give & take' and be able to 'talk' to each other when things are not going right. And ........ never hold a grudge - have to let it go, which is hard sometimes
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